Why Do People Choose The S-Chassis Over The R-Chassis?

[HungarySkyline]

Hey all iv had my skyline for about 8 months now gone to a few drifting events here and there Skid pan etc. Iv noticed nobody really drives the R32 or R33 as much as the Silvias last week i went to an event at eastern creek, me and another person were the only skyline owners out there compared to the 25-30 Silvia drifters.

Iv driven some Silvia's and i dont understand the hype, i see them blow something every time i go out there and its mainly on water, iv seen body panels go for considerably cheaper then the skyline, but motor wise, the SR20 seems to cost alot more then lets say the rb20, and they put out similar power. but that's just me. What you guys think?

[colourclassic]

Compare an S13 to an R32 for example:

Wheelbase: 2474 vs 2615mm

Weight: 1224 vs 1320kg

So it's a much lighter, and shorter (read flickable) platform, and that's in stock form.

Not to mention the McPherson strut of an S chassis is generally easier to extract big camber and lock from.

No HICAS to muck around with.

Huge aftermarket support.

Cheap.

Not to mention no boat anchor engine bolted to the front. An SR20 is lighter than an RB20, let alone an RB25.

In saying that, there are plenty of guys drifting R32/33/34's

[enka]

silvia built for drifting/daily/whatev

sky built for mountain run/daily

besides it's hella cheaper to drift on silvia

cmiiw

[colourclassic]

silvia built for drifting/daily/whatev

sky built for mountain run/daily

besides it's hella cheaper to drift on silvia

^I'm sure this was the exact design brief Nissan designers adhered to when designing both cars.

[Weapon]

In saying that I like the stability of the longer wheel base when sliding, makes it more predictable in a sense at higher speed. SR hmmm I'd much rather at the very least an RB25. There is a bloke locally here who has an R33 GTST and takes it sliding and he is one of very few that can link the big long sweeper and the entire back stretch at the drift days we have…. Mind you a 410rwkw fully built 26/30 does help lol He gets quite good angle from it

[Gts-t]

They don't they get both if they have enough money

The Silvia's handle a lot better without a massive lump of cast iron sticking out the front of the car. They are also a true coupe not being based off a sedan like the skyline

Rb sounds a million times better though

[(OO)SKYLINE(OO)]

Compare an S13 to an R32 for example:

Wheelbase: 2474 vs 2615mm

Weight: 1224 vs 1320kg

So it's a much lighter, and shorter (read flickable) platform, and that's in stock form.

Not to mention the McPherson strut of an S chassis is generally easier to extract big camber and lock from.

No HICAS to muck around with.

Huge aftermarket support.

Cheap.

Not to mention no boat anchor engine bolted to the front. An SR20 is lighter than an RB20, let alone an RB25.

In saying that, there are plenty of guys drifting R32/33/34's

This!

[BakemonoRicer]

The S15 is a perfectly balanced, lightweight sports car....

You don't need to spend much on them for them to be extremely quick on the touge / track.

[Rob260]

Because they can't afford a Z chassis

[macaroni646]

I think weight and size is the main factor. Though I much prefer the sound and response of the RB's.

[canidian_r32]

240's are cheaper and have a wider customer base too so if you break it its easy to fix. Skylines are way harder to get parts for and tend to have more issues. With great power comes an empty wallet

[colourclassic]

^lolwat, Skylines are easy as f*ck to get parts for, and they don't "have more issues" lol

Edited January 20, 2014 by colourclassic

[Hertz Donut]

His mentioning "240s" suggests he's from North America, not Aussie/NZ. Not to mention his postnic...

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

Because it's more nimble and feels like a go-kart where as our cars feel like massive boats..

for example, a 200kW S15 vs a 200kW R33 and mod for mod suspension wise.. the S15 will be doing quicker times around Wakefield park.

HOWEVER we own R chassis for purely this reason:

[niZmO_Man]

Exactly! I watched the movie 'Skyline', not one RB motor in the whole movie, was disappointed.

[boostn0199]

Its more just the fact grabbing a stock skyline and a stock silvia and trying to drift both its very hard in the skyline compared to the silvia due to size, weight and lock. But on the other hand once you set up a skyline and silvia they will perform as well as each other along with the fact that the r33 gtst now is so cheap under 6k which gives you a strong engine gearbox package compared to the s chassis so all you have to worry about is setting up the dymanic side of the car which is why in victoria you are seeing alot of r33 drift cars over the past couple of years.

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

^ Skylines don't drop boxes like S13/14/15s (R32 GTS-t excluded, they drop boxes too)

[Mr.H]

Maybe its just due to not knowing any thing better, when I was just getting into Imports many moons ago most people had Skylines and we classed the S13 as the "poor mans" Skyline.

[enka]

^
lol it's different.

but yeh in regular eyes u guys are the poor mans skyline

[Hank Scorpio]

^lolwat, Skylines are easy as f*ck to get parts for, and they don't "have more issues" lol

+11ty

RB20 is more reliable then an SR20 or an RB25 and an RB25 gearbox is strong as all hell so reliability wise let's say that Skylines are pretty damn good