Vic Wasteland Thread - 15.0

[alr33x]

That was the play when they got elected but they set their goals too high IMHO... they haven't improved the budget 1 bit and they kiiiinda said it would be under control by the end of the term. A Refreshing female leader with left appeal (but not policy lel) vs a proven backstabber/lier/donothinger is a shoe in

The basic voter doesn't understand deficit / surplus etc they'll determine it based on employed feeling good or unemployed times are tough.

The budget is a moving target to be fair regardless of political persuasion who would have predicted the ass falling out of iron ore.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

Uhh... Myuran = Sukumaran

Pretty lulzy insight into the care factor of the trendy Left

Not so much the care factor... she was trailing behind Turnbull and consodered to be more right wing.

Bali 9 presented an opportunity to show she wasn't a heartless conservative, and she played it. Well.

It was an emotional event for a lot of people and she conducted herself/ represented australia like a champ. It was perfect branding. She didn't upset the right as she let Tony do that and she sold herself to the left.

People won't vote for her on that issue but it put a whole new dimention into her overall brand.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

The basic voter doesn't understand deficit / surplus etc they'll determine it based on employed feeling good or unemployed times are tough.

The budget is a moving target to be fair regardless of political persuasion who would have predicted the ass falling out of iron ore.

The assumption that a surplus is all that matters is just as bad. We are not a company aiming for a profit. If we had no national debt and we returned a surplus that just means the gov is tsking the piss on taxes.

[alr33x]

No doubt it's not the only issue tight border control is a clear vote winner also.

[Birds]

The assumption that a surplus is all that matters is just as bad. We are not a company aiming for a profit. If we had no national debt and we returned a surplus that just means the gov is tsking the piss on taxes.

It means the government is saving for a rainy day, which given the state of the world these days, is probably not a bad thing. "I have too much money", said no person or body ever. The view of a surplus as a piss take on taxes is your average Labor voter who thinks that tax in general (any tax they pay) is some evil concept designed to stop them earning beer money; that the government is some person who takes money and gives nothing back to them (e.g. roads grow on trees mentality etc); that if the government isn't in as much debt as they are personally, then they simply can't relate to the government...

This kind of person can go live in Greece and tell the rest of us how it's working for them (sorry Ric).

[dezz]

With the state of roads in Victoria I wouldn't be using that...

[Birds]

I'm in Greece bruh, international roaming not working

Not much going for it then - how is it?

[HEKT1K]

Not much going for it then - how is it?

Hot AF

Just kickin it in the village

[emts]

where in greece are you?

[HEKT1K]

Florina

Way up north

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

It means the government is saving for a rainy day, which given the state of the world these days, is probably not a bad thing. "I have too much money", said no person or body ever. The view of a surplus as a piss take on taxes is your average Labor voter who thinks that tax in general (any tax they pay) is some evil concept designed to stop them earning beer money; that the government is some person who takes money and gives nothing back to them (e.g. roads grow on trees mentality etc); that if the government isn't in as much debt as they are personally, then they simply can't relate to the government...

This kind of person can go live in Greece and tell the rest of us how it's working for them (sorry Ric).

An actual surplus not a budget surplus.

A budget surplus has nothing to do with an actual monetary surplus. (Not that you'd know it with the amount of LNP sheep that still think we had no debt under howard and love to try to brag about it on the internet.)

We already have savings in the form of the commonwealth futures fund, (set up by howard administration) whos book is currently valued at ~$100bn so any savings go in there.

The downside is it's only purpose was to pay the superannuation of public servants... i.e. themselves lel.

If this happens during times of debt, imagine what would happen in a surplus.... we'd probably just see it all pissed away on MP and shadow MP salaries / new houses and artwork for their houses/offices.

Incidentally, the fund was modified by the Swan (using treasurer's name as I cant remember which of the 700 Labor PM's it was under) to include funds for hospitals, education, welfare etc.

[dezz]

Good Tony

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

lel

I'd say it's almost better to just keep your mouth shut and do nothing whilst in opposition,but that's clearly doesnt work either *

References:

*Bill Shorten

[alr33x]

The future fund is pathetic compared to other countries who had similar resource windfalls.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

The future fund is pathetic compared to other countries who had similar resource windfalls.

Hey man... at least Bob and Paul and John and Kevin and Julia and Tony will get their full $500k p/a paid for life while they work for other companies...

that's something we can all be proud of

[alr33x]

yeah you won't get argument from me they are far to highly paid upon exit and arguably during term.

[joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo]

yeah you won't get argument from me they are far to highly paid upon exit and arguably during term.

I think they are paid appropriately during term or even a little under... (the PM that is)

but it should stop when the term ends... like any other job

[Odium]

So my dearly departed nanas place in Mt Waverley went to auction on Saturday...

~12 months ago the estimate was 880

~3 months ago the estimate was 1.2

~2 weeks ago the estimate was 1.1

Nek minute someone caught an 8am flight into the country and snatched it up for 1.33

So at the moment, quite happy with the international buyers situation.

6Teen Le...%%%%..eds Rd Mt Waverley if anyone is interested in the property size / location (anti-google search resulted the text, I'm not actually that dyslexic)

[dezz]

Quite pleased with this years tax retun.

[Birds]

So my dearly departed nanas place in Mt Waverley went to auction on Saturday...

~12 months ago the estimate was 880

~3 months ago the estimate was 1.2

~2 weeks ago the estimate was 1.1

Nek minute someone caught an 8am flight into the country and snatched it up for 1.33

So at the moment, quite happy with the international buyers situation.

6Teen Le...%%%%..eds Rd Mt Waverley if anyone is interested in the property size / location (anti-google search resulted the text, I'm not actually that dyslexic)

Short term gain, long term ass f**king