No Crust Racing Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 (edited) S14-15 vs Evo 7-9 Track Car Let the shit talk begin. As a club level dedicated track car, which would you choose and why? Evo is well regarded as one of the best track platforms around, but Silvia's can hold their own as well. For arguments sake, limit the budget to 40k purchase/build price as this is Club level events we're talking (sprints, enduro's etc, not door to door racing). Silvia is lighter, less complexity in terms of drivetrain and electronics, cheaper most likely, and easier to work on at home maybe? Evo comes factory with TS turbo, has proven AWD platform, stronger motor and gearbox (5spd). Edited June 27, 2017 by ActionDan Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/471038-s14-15-vs-evo-7-9-track-car/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadouken Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 If they both have the same level of power it'll be the evo. 40k is a huge budget. You can make anything quicker with 20-30k to spend on a car. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/471038-s14-15-vs-evo-7-9-track-car/#findComment-7837307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Crust Racing Posted June 27, 2017 Author Share Posted June 27, 2017 Budget includes acquiring the car. To be fair yopu can get this for $25k or less and it would be fairly capable.https://tracksales.com.au/browse/circuit/timeattack/2005-evo-9-track-day-car-554.html Same power would see S15 with better power/weight. Is Evo grip enough to make up for that I wonder. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/471038-s14-15-vs-evo-7-9-track-car/#findComment-7837308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
admS15 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 This is a skyline forum, so R33 GTST is my choice, has a gearbox and engine that doesn't break easily. Can get decent ones for under 10k, that leaves 30k+ for fasts. Can make just about any car quick with that budget. Probably wont be as fast as an evo with the same $ spent on it but will definitely be a lot of fun. Just a little biased lol 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/471038-s14-15-vs-evo-7-9-track-car/#findComment-7837315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Crust Racing Posted June 27, 2017 Author Share Posted June 27, 2017 Goal would be lap times. Ideally a built car or something requiring minimal finish off, not a project build. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/471038-s14-15-vs-evo-7-9-track-car/#findComment-7837318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadouken Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Lol. That is one confused car. I reckon it's a 7 shell. No alloy roof. It's funny this situation because 2 of my mates had an s14 and the other an s15. The s14 guy went to a evo 7The s15 guy went to a evo 8mrBoth beat their times at South cct with mild setups ie coilovers and tyres. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/471038-s14-15-vs-evo-7-9-track-car/#findComment-7837319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Crust Racing Posted June 27, 2017 Author Share Posted June 27, 2017 Mild or mildER? Comparison doesn't mean much without knowing specs of each car. IF they were same tyres, same power and nothing else largely different, then cool. Thoguh you'd want to factor in cost to switch to the Evo vs gain in lap time. If we're talking 300kw silvia's on semi's vs stock turbo evo's on good road tyres but still going faster, then damn Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/471038-s14-15-vs-evo-7-9-track-car/#findComment-7837327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadouken Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 If I recall both silvias had the same setup (230kw)GT2860InjectorsFuel pumpExhaust (obviously lol)(S14 had alloy radiator)FMICCoiloversToyo r888/re55/a050/z221Evo 7 (200kw)Turbosmart wastegate actuatorFuel pumpExhaustCoiloversToyo r888/a050/re55Evo 8mr (230kw)Turbosmart wastegate actuatorFuel pumpExhaustDunlop DZ03g/re55/RSRR Silvias pushed coolant out the overflow nearly every track day. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/471038-s14-15-vs-evo-7-9-track-car/#findComment-7837333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadouken Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 .. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/471038-s14-15-vs-evo-7-9-track-car/#findComment-7837335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadouken Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Evo 7s go for 10k Now a days. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/471038-s14-15-vs-evo-7-9-track-car/#findComment-7837336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Crust Racing Posted June 27, 2017 Author Share Posted June 27, 2017 Good info, thanks. Coolant is an odd one, stuffed head gasket or bad thermostat etc? Just haven;'t seen that on CAs or SRs, normally it's oil because that's Nissan life. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/471038-s14-15-vs-evo-7-9-track-car/#findComment-7837337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
admS15 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 I would rather this than that evo above http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Nissan-Skyline-R32-GTR-Race-Car-/272703071694?hash=item3f7e5ea5ce:g:uCEAAOSwBt5ZNUL0 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/471038-s14-15-vs-evo-7-9-track-car/#findComment-7837339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Crust Racing Posted June 27, 2017 Author Share Posted June 27, 2017 That's one vote for "Other" Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/471038-s14-15-vs-evo-7-9-track-car/#findComment-7837340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
admS15 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 2 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/471038-s14-15-vs-evo-7-9-track-car/#findComment-7837341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dose Pipe Sutututu Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Golf R Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/471038-s14-15-vs-evo-7-9-track-car/#findComment-7837343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGTC Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 (edited) This would have been my pick if i had the guts to sell my 34R and commit to more track time Built motor, 5spd, front & rear diffs, mca golds, cage, can be registered. http://www.my105.com/ListingDetails/id/18669/latest/1 https://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/_/SSE-AD-4636253?_ga=2.78987730.710373335.1498453303-698391425.1478472892 Edited June 27, 2017 by squareznboxez 2 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/471038-s14-15-vs-evo-7-9-track-car/#findComment-7837353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leroy Peterson Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 if you like having 4 doors and driving the Corolla of track days, then sure, go get an evo. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/471038-s14-15-vs-evo-7-9-track-car/#findComment-7837371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadouken Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 That's lots of money though isn't it. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/471038-s14-15-vs-evo-7-9-track-car/#findComment-7837372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadouken Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 if you like having 4 doors and driving the Corolla of track days, then sure, go get an evo.You wouldn't believe it but the "corolla" for the last 3 years has been wrx's. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/471038-s14-15-vs-evo-7-9-track-car/#findComment-7837373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leroy Peterson Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 32 minutes ago, Hadouken said: You wouldn't believe it but the "corolla" for the last 3 years has been wrx's. price and availability. The WRX version of the Evo is a Lancer Ralliart or wahtever. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/471038-s14-15-vs-evo-7-9-track-car/#findComment-7837380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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