Ford Mustang scores 2 star ANCAP

[PranK]

You read that right. One of the lowest scores given.

Article here;

http://www.caradvice.com.au/517368/ill-never-drive-a-ford-mustang-again/

 

[GTofuS-T]

I'm gonna be very vague cause I can't be bothered looking into this again (it is old news after all).

But I believe this had something to do with being one of the first cars to undergo a new rating system, whereby there were say 15 or so criteria as opposed to the previous 4 or so.

And many new criteria are in relation to driver aides which is stupid, cause from a safety perspective, an active driver is better than a complacent one (implying that drivers who can rely on fancy gadgets to drive, will)

I haven't followed up with any of the newer cars since the Mustang to be tested with this new rating system for comparison. Perhaps I'll do that.

[r32-25t]

a lot of it also had to do with the rear passangers safety in an accident 

[Birds]

I couldn't give a shit about ancap lol

I'm sure it makes the event of an accident safer for you, but I bet there are people gravitating towards high ancap ratings who don't bother with the more important basics - knowing your vehicle in and out of control, watching everything around you and looking well ahead!

[PranK]

14 minutes ago, Birds said:

I couldn't give a shit about ancap lol

I'm sure it makes the event of an accident safer for you, but I bet there are people gravitating towards high ancap ratings who don't bother with the more important basics - knowing your vehicle in and out of control, watching everything around you and looking well ahead!

That wont stop you from being taken out by another car at some point. I've been in enough accidents myself that I seriously could only have avoided if I could have slowed down time. In that scenario you (and your occupants) want more than 2 stars. 

 

[djr81]

Its because its a sport car not an SUV designed for people to drive whilst sleeping.

ANCAP CEO James Goodwin ... slammed the lack of speed assistance systems, lane support systems, autonomous emergency braking, forward collision warning and rear seat belt reminders, but also the physical crash performance.

In response, Ford Australia external communications head Martin Günsberg said ....“The overall Euro NCAP rating is based on four pillars (Adult Occupant Protection, Child Occupant Protection, Pedestrian Protection and Safety Assist), with a very strong focus on family car and SUV safety characteristics and specific safety assist features, which are usually not part of the standard equipment of cars in the Mustang category,” he stated.

“Mustang delivered a four-star result for Adult Occupant Protection, a three-star result for Child Occupant Protection and a five-star result for Pedestrian Protection. However, a two-star result in the Safety Assist pillar determined the overall result of a two-star rating.

“The Mustang features a suite of advanced safety features as standard including an ‘active’ pop-up bonnet, as well as driver and front passenger airbags, front and passenger knee airbags. It also offers standard side airbags, side chest airbags and driver/passenger side impact airbags. A driver and front passenger seatbelt reminder system is standard.”

 

[Missileman]

https://youtu.be/AU9ixQVwCRE

[niZmO_Man]

I disregard these dumb ratings, what is lane departure warning and seatbelt reminder going to do in a crash?
This is the only thing that matters in a crash

 

 

Oh and here's a "5 star" Camry for comparison

 

[Birds]

 

7 hours ago, PranK said:

That wont stop you from being taken out by another car at some point. I've been in enough accidents myself that I seriously could only have avoided if I could have slowed down time. In that scenario you (and your occupants) want more than 2 stars. 

 

Fair point, however those are freak accidents and the kind of vehicles I'm into haven't even been tested by ANCAP, so it's still irrelevant to me! Maybe when I'm looking for a family car I'll pay attention...

On a related note, I loathe the idea that some people might drive more carelessly or with inflated confidence in the safety of their vehicle because it got 5 stars. Things like lane departure warnings bandaid issues like irresponsibly driving while fatigued. Vehicles to most of us are an A to B daily part of life and because of this we lose touch with the reality that thousands of kilograms are moving at high speed and depending entirely on a lack of human error. Safety systems to a car company are 100% profit and marketing/competition, nothing altruistic. Driver education and more difficult licensing are initiatives that need to come from governments and undermine the safety issues that car manufacturers try to address.

/rant

I think roads would be a lot safer if everyone had the experience of riding a motorcycle at least once to experience the reality of vulnerability and fragility - riding/driving in constant fear is much better than complacency!

[Gymkhana]

6 hours ago, Missileman said:

https://youtu.be/AU9ixQVwCRE

I like this guy. Doesn't sugarcoat shit.

[Missileman]

11 minutes ago, Gymkhana said:

I like this guy. Doesn't sugarcoat shit.

John is a fcuking legend, if only all journalists had his credibility. 

[Kinkstaah]

So um... I assume 4 out of 5 is actually epically bad then? (assuming solo driver in vehicle)

If so, why even have 5 stars...?

[PranK]

On 13/10/2017 at 11:05 PM, Birds said:

On a related note, I loathe the idea that some people might drive more carelessly or with inflated confidence in the safety of their vehicle because it got 5 stars. Things like lane departure warnings bandaid issues like irresponsibly driving while fatigued. Vehicles to most of us are an A to B daily part of life and because of this we lose touch with the reality that thousands of kilograms are moving at high speed and depending entirely on a lack of human error. Safety systems to a car company are 100% profit and marketing/competition, nothing altruistic. Driver education and more difficult licensing are initiatives that need to come from governments and undermine the safety issues that car manufacturers try to address.

I'm not entirely sure if I've ever said this to you before, but; I agree entirely. 

[PranK]

On 13/10/2017 at 10:07 PM, niZmO_Man said:

I disregard these dumb ratings, what is lane departure warning and seatbelt reminder going to do in a crash?
This is the only thing that matters in a crash

Yikes. 

[PranK]

I'd love @MaTBoY to chime in on this thread, he has some experience in this area.

[Birds]

3 hours ago, PranK said:

I'm not entirely sure if I've ever said this to you before, but; I agree entirely. 

I'm outspoken enough that most people are confronted with this cognitive dissonance at some point in their lives