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Shown at Tokyo Auto Salon.

https://www.autoblog.com/2023/01/12/2024-nissan-gt-r-reveal/

 

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Unfortunately, like the EU we wont be getting it.

What do you think tho? How long can they flog this model?

The Nismo looks good and I like the exposed carbon. The wing is super cool.

I was kinda expecting more from the announcement though.

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I think I've said this before but the R35 really is stuck between a rock and a hard place. Nissan barely sells any of them, even back in the early years they didn't sell very well. Their competition is the 911 which sells far better and it also helps that models like the GT2/GT3 reliably sell every unit they build despite going for huge money. To keep up with the Corvette and all the other performance ICE cars will require a huge investment on Nissan's part that they probably can't afford to be making right now and I doubt they can keep using a glorified FM platform design to make it happen. It probably needs to be mid engine. With how long development cycles are they probably need to either go hybrid like the NSX or possibly even full electric to have the kind of world-beating performance people expect from the GTR name.

The R35 is now "analog" by modern standards but for me at least the V6 and DCT doesn't really make for an interesting experience and I don't really think it makes sense for Nissan to turn the GTR name into one that lives on nostalgia anyways, an I6 manual GTR today would be substantially slower than the R35. Porsche makes both kinds of cars with the 911 though, you can buy the 911 GT3 with a manual and have something nominally more engaging or you can go for all out performance with the GT2 which is DCT-only.

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On 1/15/2023 at 3:28 AM, joshuaho96 said:

The R35 is now "analog" by modern standards but for me at least the V6 and DCT doesn't really make for an interesting experience and I don't really think it makes sense for Nissan to turn the GTR name into one that lives on nostalgia anyways, an I6 manual GTR today would be substantially slower than the R35. Porsche makes both kinds of cars with the 911 though, you can buy the 911 GT3 with a manual and have something nominally more engaging or you can go for all out performance with the GT2 which is DCT-only.

Arguably these cars are all so fast that an H pattern manual makes no sense anyway. Neither from a "driving engagement" or "driving enjoyment" sense, or any sort of additional "control" over what the driveline is doing. To obtain best enjoyment at the sort of speeds that these cars are intended to be driven at, then 2 hands on the wheel and nera-instant automated-manual-box shifts are the only way to go. Planning your transmission choice based on 2s pull freeway onramps and tootling around the 'burns is a nonsense.

The R35 has always been just a bigger nastier Evo. Pure triumph of technology over physics and driver ability. This is the reason why it has never been all that popular. The various Porches, on the other hand, regardless of whatever level of chassis assistance might be built in, have always been aimed at pleasing the driver and rewarding effort. That's why they can sell far more than they make. I do of course make plenty of allowance for badge snobbery. I like (some) Nissans, but would take a rattly old track-whore GT3 over an R35 any day.

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To be fair I wish the car they released 15 years ago looked like this, and hopefully this is the last Botox injection for this model. Every time they Botox it, they push back the new model.

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1 hour ago, funkymonkey said:

To be fair I wish the car they released 15 years ago looked like this, and hopefully this is the last Botox injection for this model. Every time they Botox it, they push back the new model.

I'm not convinced we'll see a new model. 😞

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It looks OK, they all do/did............moot point, cos I'll never own one.  I just can't see myself having a spare $200K [give or take] laying around.  And if I ever did, an R35 [or any car] would not be at the top of my bucket list.

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On 17/01/2023 at 7:47 PM, funkymonkey said:

To be fair I wish the car they released 15 years ago looked like this, and hopefully this is the last Botox injection for this model. Every time they Botox it, they push back the new model.

The 'wang (Hafei Xiaobawang) was released 15 years ago and I'm not sure it's aged quite as well.

 

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On 1/13/2023 at 6:25 AM, PranK said:

Shown at Tokyo Auto Salon.

https://www.autoblog.com/2023/01/12/2024-nissan-gt-r-reveal/

 

MY24-Nissan-GT-R-19.webp

 

Unfortunately, like the EU we wont be getting it.

What do you think tho? How long can they flog this model?

The Nismo looks good and I like the exposed carbon. The wing is super cool.

I was kinda expecting more from the announcement though.

It looks really aggressive. 

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