Denver Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 bring back the gtr ah yes i remember the one that crashed on the hill stopped the race and still won ...... so its not ok to win a championship by been consistant but it;s ok to crash stop a race and win bathurst cause it;s a nissin ok i see Its called the reg flag rule the race was red flagged on THAT LAP, the sierra boys had not caught up and passed the gt-r yet dispite it being busted up, from memory they had nearly a laps lead on them.. the rules of the red flag are that when the race is stopped, they go back to the last full lap, so the lap before when the gt-r had all its wheels, was the lap considered the final lap.. the gt-r was still leading then wasn't it thus they won Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/9/#findComment-2746670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZ_Pomy Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 yes they won but they still caused the race stopage so how stupid is that rule ? u can crash and still win even if the crash happens b4 the finish line i fully understand the rules after racing myself for many yrs but it still was a stupid rule in the day of course the one eyed gtr fans would never look at it that way tho Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/9/#findComment-2746709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr81 Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 (edited) Please complete the following sentence: "What happened at Bathurst 14 years ago is relevant to this thread because..." Edited December 13, 2006 by djr81 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/9/#findComment-2746729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
benm Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 simon said so... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/9/#findComment-2746867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctjet Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 lol... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/9/#findComment-2746874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denver Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 yes they won but they still caused the race stopage so how stupid is that rule ? u can crash and still win even if the crash happens b4 the finish line i fully understand the rules after racing myself for many yrs but it still was a stupid rule in the day of course the one eyed gtr fans would never look at it that way tho MANY races have been won under this rule in simular circumstances just because a car is on its roof, missing all its wheels and bent beyond recognition, does not mean it has to lose a race it was winning on the lap it was red flagged its nothing to do with on eyed gt-r fans, its the rules.. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/9/#findComment-2747179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr81 Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Didn't DJR win the Queensland 500 in about '99 with Paul Radisich in the sandtrap when it bucketed down raining? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/9/#findComment-2747263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kozeyekan Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 yes they won but they still caused the race stopage so how stupid is that rule ? u can crash and still win even if the crash happens b4 the finish line i fully understand the rules after racing myself for many yrs but it still was a stupid rule in the day of course the one eyed gtr fans would never look at it that way tho The difference is that the GTR was AHEAD of the others. Advantage should always be given to the person in the lead, as they had to earn that position. To get ahead, you at some stage have to be faster than the person behind you. (excluding lapping, where the person being lapped should concede the position) There is a WORLD of difference between leading and crashing compared to losing, crashing out the person ahead of you and taking their position. Being in the lead is like having the ball in team sports. That person earned that position and should be protected. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/9/#findComment-2747320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Baron Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 yes they won but they still caused the race stopage so how stupid is that rule ? u can crash and still win even if the crash happens b4 the finish line i fully understand the rules after racing myself for many yrs but it still was a stupid rule in the day of course the one eyed gtr fans would never look at it that way tho i dont know which race you've been watching but the GTR did not cause the race to be stopped. There was a crash on conrod straight involving 2 or 3 cars. the GTR had an off somewhere (cant remember where) and was returning to the pits with just 3 wheels. it slid down the start of conrod and couldn't stop or turn and joined the first few cars in there. after that 2 more cars joined in and also became stuck on the side of conrod. The GTR certainly didn't cause it. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/9/#findComment-2747413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted December 13, 2006 Author Share Posted December 13, 2006 Didn't DJR win the Queensland 500 in about '99 with Paul Radisich in the sandtrap when it bucketed down raining? Yep Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/9/#findComment-2747665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillzy Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 If HRT/HSVDT had to employ dirty tactics to beat the faster Ford than so be it. R.kelly knows that he didn't win that championship the genuine way because Lowndes was faster the whole weekend. If it wasn't for the blocking from the Holden drivers then Lowndesy would have been further away from Kelly and this damn thing would never have occured. Although let's not go to the "if it wasn't for that" chapter because even me, an avid Ford man can see that if Lowndes didn't move forward and get hit by Davison then this whole thing wouldn't be big. I'm just really disappionted that it had to finish that way. I love V8 Supercars and if some of you guy don't then fair enough... this is a jap car forum i spose. LOWNDES FOR '07 CHAMP Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/9/#findComment-2748270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted December 13, 2006 Author Share Posted December 13, 2006 Why is everyone cracking it at HRT? From what i saw of race 1 footage it was hard but fair racing. Lowndes was a bit ambitous in trying to get past Skaife where he did...and was being typicla Lowndes in being almost too brave. HSV Racing yes, but Todd and Mark? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/9/#findComment-2748597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munna1 Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Boo hoo he didnt mean too do it and he served his penelty. Lowensy should have stayed at holden were he was WINNING championships. Go holden Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/9/#findComment-2748887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctjet Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Go holden that is all... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/9/#findComment-2749062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctjet Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 oddly enough the craig lowndes officail site hasnt posted the results or even said a word about the Phillip Island round... I would have thought his fans would want to know whats going on with him and what he thinks about it all because he hasnt said much on the subject Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/9/#findComment-2749090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
benm Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 oddly enough the craig lowndes officail site hasnt posted the results or even said a word about the Phillip Island round...Well except for this: http://www.tripleeight.com.au/news.cfm?newsitem=409.0 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/9/#findComment-2749464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2rismo Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 just because a car is on its roof, missing all its wheels and bent beyond recognition, does not mean it has to lose a race it was winning on the lap it was red flagged GO BRAD JONES! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/9/#findComment-2749655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillzy Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 (edited) This is some funny shit! RICK KELLY'S CAR FOR '07: Edited December 14, 2006 by 2rismo Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/9/#findComment-2749806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctjet Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 repost... from 2 or 3 pages ago dude Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/9/#findComment-2749833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillzy Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 hmmm should have checked Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/146699-rick-kelly-should-have-been-shot-into-the-sheets/page/9/#findComment-2750637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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