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Well here are my thoughts....and I guess this is of personal opinion.

I :laugh: the S2 RS260....I think its got class, is easy to mod and looks the goods for the first three quarters of the car anyway. Biggest let down with the RS260 though is the age of it. Which is why I have ended up with an NM35.....mind you in the handling department I thing the M35 would drive away from a stock RS260.

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The most common comment in the Stagea section is "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" and not a truer word has been said about the Stagea.

I personally love the look of the M35 and the C34 IMO is not that pretty. But I guess you always learn to love the ones you are with the most. LOL

Performance wise I think the M35 really gives the C34 a run for the money but I have not driven a C34 so I can only comment from the point of view of driving the M35. It is bigger and for me that is a plus as I use mine for work and is brilliant when going on holiday with the family.

The toughest part of the M35 is that there has not been as much development work done on the VQ25DET and finding performance parts requires a bit more work and research. Mind you I have really enjoyed the challenge of solving the problems as they have come up. The best part of the M35 is balance of the chassis, given good shocks and springs and a little stiffer sway bars and the car is transformed in to a great touring wagon with handling right up there for a wagon.

I agree, the handling is a bonus but the 260 would have been a much easier and cheaper car to mod. (although I like a challenge.)

My missus made the decision for me in the end, not a bad compromise seeing as I would really love an R32 gtr in the driveway. :laugh:

From my experience, no question the answer is S1 M35.

Was going to write an essay, but cbf'd so I will keep it short(ish).

Test drove all three models of C34. The RS Fours that I drove underwhelmed me with their power delivery which was disappointing considering I was coming from an R31 (GXE if you must know).

The interior also did not impress either myself nor my wife.

I did like the front of the C34 S2, but felt I needed more than a nice front end to hand over $25k lol.

Saw the first two M35's for sale on Carsales a night after test driving C34's (s1 & S2) and Legnums. Loved the all black, leather interior of one of them... negotiated and purchased sigh unseen.

Still love it. The interior is MUCH classier and nicer than the C34 (I also prefer it over the silver plastic of the S2 M35's for that matter), the car is considerably quicker than the RS Four C34's stock for stock, is better on fuel (marginally), looks nicer than all C34's which are just too damn square and boxy for my liking and rides soooo much better.

Yes it is more difficult to mod, but there is a strange satisfaction that comes from figuring out what will work best and how to make/mod it as opposed to just picking parts from a catalogue.

Yes, the 260 is the fastest of the lot.... and the easiest to mod for big power.... but it is still a long way behind the M35 as a complete car inside and out.

Having said all that, I have yet to drive a 3.5L M35. Pretty sure they would be pretty easy to pull big numbers from due to Z33 kits etc.

Edited by iamhe77

It comes down to what you want. C34 if you want to build a performance machine so logically 260Rs first, then S2 because it has a neo engine and its easier to chip the ecu and lastly S1 for me because it was all i could afford ($4500 v $10,000 for an S2 or $20,000 for a 260RS). Luckily I prefer the look of the S1.

M35 if you want a more modern family friendly car which you can make faster if you have heaps of money to import the bits from Japan. Some look awful, some really nice depending on the model and body kit etc.

^^ well that's the problem like Andy said. There's really not that much performance parts for the VQ25DET motor which is surprising considering how much support there is for other Nissan engines.

But a VQ35DE with a twin turbo setup will be a hoot!

260RS or S2 C34 - Available with a stick and third pedal!!!

this

nothing feels as nice as selecting your own throttle input and gears and gear change speed/ferocity and all that other stuff while getting up the chuff of things like s14's etc through the twisties (obviously loosing a bit in the corners and gaining on the straights)

also, 0-100 in 5.65s is pretty brisk for a largeish wagon - can't find any stock specs for that, thats what the ecutalk said i did the other day in my rs4s

also, c34's are ridiculously cheap at the moment especially when you compare the s2's to r34's, even the auto 4 door taxi 34's

i haven't driven an m35 so i can't comment on them but if you dont mind auto i reckon they would be the go cos they have a proper wagon suspension setup and a lot more torque

now is the time to buy tho, they are all so cheap :D

260RS or S2 C34 - Available with a stick and third pedal!!!

my thoughts exactly. plus i dont really like the looks of the m35s stock

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m35 stock what??

dont forget they come in an aero selection, AXIS and ARX - all different. plus now PM35s can be complied, there are several different models............

i think all the C34 non-believers need to drive an M35

m35 rears and interiors are hideous :S

As I said "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" because i can't believe anyone would say that a C34 looks good inside or out. Because I think the rear of the M35 looks awesome and the interior is sooo nice.

The C34 is unfortunatly really dated. It's saving grace is it's purchase price and ease of modification.

As I said "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" because i can't believe anyone would say that a C34 looks good inside or out. Because I think the rear of the M35 looks awesome and the interior is sooo nice.

The C34 is unfortunatly really dated. It's saving grace is it's purchase price and ease of modification.

the interior of c34's is better than any holden or ford of the same age, its better than the inside of my old subaru too and thats about the same age

also i believe its "beauty is in the eye of the beer holder"

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