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No difference, but P plate is the start of your 1 year probation before you can get a faster bike, so I guess they're testing if you're worthy of a bigger bike and then making you wait a year of practicing for it. They also teach and test you a couple advanced techniques.

I was on my Ls for 3 years just cause I couldn't be f**ked going for Ps to start the probation lol.

f**k that, I'd get my p's asap

Give me a Ducati or a TLR1000 any day of the week. Mates of mine have Duc's, no reliability issues to speak of other than complaints from neighbours :D

End of the day a v-twin just sounds wicked. Also the Jap bikes all going "bottom/mid side" exhausts atm looks shit house I reckon.

And before you get ya knickers in a knot, one of em have had plenty of jap bikes (and one still has a R1). Unless you wanna go out racing and going flat out everywhere... Looks good, sounds good, is good!

But they are farken expensive, but means you can pickup a 2-3yr old one and save fortune! :teehee:

Sure I enjoy riding Ducatis, but have known many cracked single sided swingarms (stupid design purely for looks) and also busted starter motors, usually these are recurring problems as well that take forever to fix because Euro parts are difficult. After working in motorcycle wholesale you get an idea of what bikes last well and what doesn't. Also Euro has a small section of the market so problems won't be seen as often as they would with equal numbers.

Having said that the Streetfighter is on my list, but as you say only for looks and sound. As long as an owner is happy with this then that's cool, I wouldn't be able to buy one without another bike in my garage, due to the type of riding I prefer.

On another note did you know the state of California has more motorcycles than the whole of Australia? Freakin awesome.

Sure I enjoy riding Ducatis, but have known many cracked single sided swingarms (stupid design purely for looks) and also busted starter motors, usually these are recurring problems as well that take forever to fix because Euro parts are difficult. After working in motorcycle wholesale you get an idea of what bikes last well and what doesn't. Also Euro has a small section of the market so problems won't be seen as often as they would with equal numbers.

Having said that the Streetfighter is on my list, but as you say only for looks and sound. As long as an owner is happy with this then that's cool, I wouldn't be able to buy one without another bike in my garage, due to the type of riding I prefer.

On another note did you know the state of California has more motorcycles than the whole of Australia? Freakin awesome.

And i could imagine some of them being ridiculously awesome big $$$ rare as shit bikes too :D

Some f**kwit decided to take out a power pole at 5am, woke up to no power, showering and eating breakfast in the dark,,, then my route to work was closed off because of it.

Was at least 2 fire trucks ambos a few cop cars as well as a chopper and powercor obviously.

Mother f**ker

mohsen= the operation?

jamie= orange juice

kaz= dj douchebag

The deltoid

lol wtf! DJ Douchebag I think not. I've got a DJ name and that aint it.

Well I just did it and got 'The Rack'.. seems appropriate I guess haha

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loooool

:laugh:

You can have your L's for only 12months, then you must do your P's test, or your L's will b cancelled. Talking from experience 

Must have changed it since I did it, which wa years ago, though I vaguely remember renewing / getting an extension on my Ls. I had no motivation to get Ps because motorbike was purely a commuting thing for me and I had no intention of buying a bigger bike at the time.

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