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5 minutes ago, ActionDan said:

from a 2860? 

Do the newer discos go that hard now? 

Customer wants response, and on Garrett's site they say the compressor can flow 475hp vs 400hp of the Gen 1 GTX.

Guess we'll find out soon if it's unicorn shit or actually real.

No more personal car updates until your new daily arrives.

New bathroom looks the goods. Definitely have a go at tiling yourself. Its one my trades and for simple home reno stuff is simple (kitchen/laundry splash backs). Setup/layout is key, a good spirit level, a decent cutter & patience makes the difference. Quality tiles is key, simple test is to put 2 tiles face to face and check for bowing/curvature.

I looked at the gen2 2860 before going 2867 and thought it may run out of puff over 230ish kw? 

@robbo_rb180 thanks man, I would give the whole tiling thing a go at our future house (probably in the next year or two), currently in a townhouse and space is an issue so less tools the better.

Turbo wise, we'll find out soon enough, I have the dyno booked Friday after hours (if all goes to plan).

The stock T28BB on that same car/motor made 223kW on E85 at 1.2bar (bleeds down big time from 1.4bar) - so I can only assume with bigger cams, a new improved compressor that flows "475hp" on paper doing a bit more than 230kW. If we hit 240kW happy days, but I want to see if 250kW is possible!

I did advise him to go a GTX2867R Gen 2, but he said the other car I tuned/setup with the GTX2867R Gen 1 was a bit too laggy for his taste - at the end of the day, customer is always right.

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1 minute ago, Dose Pipe Sutututu said:

@robbo_rb180 thanks man, I would give the whole tiling thing a go at our future house (probably in the next year or two), currently in a townhouse and space is an issue so less tools the better.

Turbo wise, we'll find out soon enough, I have the dyno booked Friday after hours (if all goes to plan).

I did advise him to go a GTX2867R Gen 2, but he said the other car I tuned/setup with the GTX2867R Gen 1 was a bit too laggy for his taste - at the end of the day, customer is always right.

Be interesting to see the graph. I have found the gen2 2867 to be great on track but I can see what he means by "laggy" on street but his now done cams which again shifts the power band....
 

I've personally driven 2x GTX2867R Gen 1 S15s on the track and they are perfectly capable cars.

1x running the 6 speed S15 box (no idea how it is still even together) and the other is the Intima S15 which has a 5 speed Z32. The 5 speed S15 would get the turbo all in by 3900rpm in 3rd where as the 6 speed in would come in about 4200rpm in 3rd. Both had Tomei v1.0 Poncams both on E85, both tuned by me. 6 Speed S15 made 270kW (stock head with ARP studs), 5 Speed S15 made 282kW (has 6Boost manifold & freshened head).

I can dig up the graphs tonight if you're interested. 

I did setup and road tune a S15 with Procams, GTX2867R Gen 2 but the owner blew his gearbox and decided to buy a 2017 Civic Type-R so the S15 is in the garage offline.

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Update, now with E72 (close enough, flex sensor life). Added in a bit of timing and boost and arse dyno tells me it's moving. With 12 degrees of timing midrange at 1.2bar, there's heaps of room to push the setup!

Hopefully the dyno is free for me this weekend to tune on, should pump out some solid numbers and be pretty fun on the track.

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Why would you choose anything that isnt a G series Garrett in 2019?

That said the GTX2860 realistically is a pretty good unit. MX5 down here in Vic uses them to great effect at Winton doing 1:28's which is fast as fk. If anything it's refreshing that someone in 2019 is not going "Yeh bruh insta story needs 600+kw to even trend"

39 minutes ago, Kinkstaah said:

Why would you choose anything that isnt a G series Garrett in 2019?
 

In NZ at least it's under $2200 for a T25 IWG GTX2860R Gen2 and over $3k for the equivalent G2560 which is a good start haha.  That combined with the G25s being a bit laggier means that if I had a setup which would need a bunch more work to support much more than 250kw and I wanted it to be responsive I suspect the extra $800 would be a pretty hard pill to want to swallow.

 

1 hour ago, Kinkstaah said:

Why would you choose anything that isnt a G series Garrett in 2019?

That said the GTX2860 realistically is a pretty good unit. MX5 down here in Vic uses them to great effect at Winton doing 1:28's which is fast as fk. If anything it's refreshing that someone in 2019 is not going "Yeh bruh insta story needs 600+kw to even trend"

Insta is life, every car now is 1000hp w/ a Samsonas or PPG or Albins, etc.

Does about 5 Roll Racing stints and it's out for surgery lol

Customer (my mate's friend's brother) wanted a GTX2863 in the Gen 2 (which doesn't exist), given that the GTX2860R Gen 2's compressor flows "475hp" unicorn numbers he was more than happy to give it go. Dare say with 2nd gear pulls on a soft as shit timing map, it's showing good signs.

And we are done!

Good start, shower screen guy came with the wrong door lol. Anyhow, it's done now :)

Also removed that block mirror brace lol.

#builtnotbought

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5 hours ago, Lithium said:

In NZ at least it's under $2200 for a T25 IWG GTX2860R Gen2 and over $3k for the equivalent G2560 which is a good start haha.  That combined with the G25s being a bit laggier means that if I had a setup which would need a bunch more work to support much more than 250kw and I wanted it to be responsive I suspect the extra $800 would be a pretty hard pill to want to swallow.

 

add in a manifold and external gate adds more $$$$. Been in the wrx from the g series thread and it is great but the cost to do it I think out weighs what the average person needs. For myself it was an extra $1600-1800 to go G series (vband housing, manifold & gate) over the gen2 gtx and I am happy with what I have done. If/when they do a T3 housing for G30 that will be when I jump on that band wagon.

Back on topic, so when you appearing on The Block?

24 minutes ago, robbo_rb180 said:

Back on topic, so when you appearing on The Block?

Don't want a divorce, only just got married early last year LOL

However, the idea of flipping a few houses did enter my mind - but living in constant dust, shit & constantly moving is a bit of a turn off. Living in your PPoR then selling, you can avoid CGT, however you're constantly unhappy living with an unfinished house.. kind of like how my R33 is unfinished :( 

Owner forgot to tell me there's a stock BOV in the car lol.. boost bled down a bit up top, also some misfire issue with plugs.

Will pop in new plugs, gapped down to 0.6mm and replaced the stock BOV. I see a 270kW quite possible in this setup, impressed!

253kW from only 1.3bar boost, baby numbers and early days!

For new readers, GTX2860R Gen 2, Tomei 258 (Not 256) Poncams, usual bolt ons, and Dose Renovation Special tuning.

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