R35 Gtr Review In Herald Sun

[pepe lopez]

Just finished reading a review of the R35 in Fridays Herald Sun. Is this the most scathing review on the car ever.

He really goes to town on the car, his biggest critism is the weight, too much technology and that the car has no soul.

He gives it credit for being fast, but simply not very involving to drive.

Owners views????

http://carsguide.news.com.au/site/news-and...t_r_test_drive/

[djr81]

Just finished reading a review of the R35 in Fridays Herald Sun. Is this the most scathing review on the car ever.

He really goes to town on the car, his biggest critism is the weight, too much technology and that the car has no soul.

He gives it credit for being fast, but simply not very involving to drive.

Owners views????

Its the Herald Sun. What do you expect? Good journalism?

[kralster]

thats right, everyone on here is a expert car journalist...

[handbrake]

I guess he's right, this car is really quite ordinary.

for motoring journos, stick shift and powerslides = soul (almost without exception)

[d0p3y]

Good or Bad, I reckon reviews are worth bugger all in the grand scheme of things. I'll always judge the car for myself, I don't care what somebody else thinks of it.

[Beer Baron]

Just finished reading a review of the R35 in Fridays Herald Sun. Is this the most scathing review on the car ever.

He really goes to town on the car, his biggest critism is the weight, too much technology and that the car has no soul.

He gives it credit for being fast, but simply not very involving to drive.

Owners views????

well my view is that is rubbish. sure it may not be 'involving' to drive at legal speeds on a public road, as you just put around with no fuss. there is no tricky gearshift, no heavy hard to use steering, no skittish handling. just no fuss motoring. I can't say the weight is any issue for street use. and I can't say it has too much technology.

on a track however and with the driver aids switched OFF it's very involving and challenging to drive anywhere near it's limit. there is plenty of power oversteer to be had if you get on the gas to hard and too early. and it's plenty fun to slide around a bit. it's brutally fast too.

if you want 'involving' to drive. buy a 1983 alfa GTV6. they have no power steering and feel like you need arnie size arms to steer it at low speed. they have an 'interesting' gear shift due to the rear mounted transaxle and long shift linkages. they get a nice tank slapping pendulum effect happening if you can't deal with the oversteer (due to the weight in the rear). they have a great sounding V6 engine, and use far more fuel (and oil) than they should. but they are fun and rewarding to drive on the limit. having said that they are a rubbish car, and on a race track would get spanked by a mild S13 silvia. but you could not say they aren't 'involving'. so if involving is at the top of his list he should be test driving 70s and 80s sports cars instead. if you want a fast, well built, well apointed, fun AND easy to drive powerhouse. then the 35 GTR is a good choice.

[Rekin]

Here is an article about it;

http://carsguide.news.com.au/site/news-and...t_r_test_drive/

i think its similar to the one in the newspaper?

[Turbz RB-25]

The reviewer's just knocking it because he cannot afford one

[siksII]

The fact that he gets more excited about driving his Subaru Brumby than the R35 is all I need to make up my mind about that review.

[GTR-N1]

Kevin Hepworth Motoring Editor of CarsGuide Daily Telegraph, asked me if I've been in one yet (after he came back from Japan).

He said, "IT'S A MUST HAVE!!!!!"

[(OO)SKYLINE(OO)]

Here is an article about it;

http://carsguide.news.com.au/site/news-and...t_r_test_drive/

i think its similar to the one in the newspaper?

The douche c**t whinges more then a bitch with PMS.

Don't like it then F**k off.

[Necx0]

Now of course this is a personal opinion but to me there are very few Aussie journos worth listening to.

Dean Evans, Michael Stahl and Peter Robinson spring to mind.

Maybe all these GT-R hating journos should drive it in the wet, apparently its quite an animal.

[phunky_monkey]

The douche c**t whinges more then a bitch with PMS.

Don't like it then F**k off.

Take it easy tiger, it's just one mans opinion

I haven't driven an R35 so I can't comment, but I can relate to what he is saying in some respects. I know it's a completely different beast, but I used to drive an Audi A4 Quattro Turbo a few years back. It was a beautiful car, went well enough, handled pretty decently, was super refined but I didn't enjoy it. It was too good for it's own good, and took the fun out of driving for me. I drive a Clubsport now, and it may not be anywhere near as polished, but it's pretty good fun and has a lot of character to it. This may not be the same thing in your eyes, but just food for thought.

But hey, I'd love an R35 GT-R parked in my driveway

[LSX-438]

I can sort of see where the author is coming from. I wouldnt buy an R35 as my daily driver, it is totally wasted on the street. And yes it's "boring" in that context - only because it is 110% competent. It's kind of like chatting to the most competent lawyer in the world.. great at what they do, but they dont do smalltalk with mere mortals too well...

Having said that, the article completely brushes over what this car is about (which has NOTHING to do with getting jollies running around town, picking up your latte and such). He just doesnt understand what this car is primarily about. However the fact you CAN drive around town in relative silence and comfort is a spectacular achievement, given the capabilities of this car.

I think the anticipation and momentum the 35 has generated makes people think it is the "be all and end all".

As such they think it's going to be a hoot to drive in ANY situation.

I agree there are cars (a fraction of a price) which are more engaging and fun on the street, but that's just not the point nor focus of this car. I love the fact that Nissan put a bullseye on the 911T and basically went after it, throwing a lot of time any money, and achieved their goal, whilst asking only half the price. That's what this car is, and stuff the street experience, that's for pussies anyway.

Edited May 8, 2009 by LSX-438

[limitless]

It is very easy to drive around town and it's not exactly exciting at "legal" road speeds. He should have found himself a nice curvey open road and put his foot to the floor, then he would have realised that Nissan have built the next generation monster that any fool can drive fast. I use my R32 as a daily driver and it's a pain in the butt in traffic. You get the R32 on the same curvey open road and it's a serious handful, constantly stepping the rear out and the aged ATTESA traction control system still frightens the crap out of me and I've been driving it for 8 years.

The R35 is an extremely capable car designed to go stupid speeds and it does it well. It's near impossible to make a car that handles slow speeds well, is reasonably comfortable and very much at home on a race track. Nissan have acheived this.

He's comparison the the Merc is just stupid considering he hates the technology and refers to it being soul less. I test drove a number of Mercs before picking up my R35 and they aren't drivers cars. There seems to be "gap" between you and the car (the technology) and they provide absolutly no feedback. I think Nissan have done a brilliant job is this department as the R35 provides more feedback than any car I've ever driven with this sort of technology.

His problably knocked up his review on his 386DX2/66 running Windows for Workgroups 3.11 because he likes the experience it gives him and he knows where everything is.

He should go and write for House and Garden, I think he'd be more at home.

[ras1983]

Less than half the article was about his driving impressions, more than half of it was anecdotes and analogies. That doesn't make a good article in my opinion. If he spent more time describing the driving aspect of the car and what he didn't like based on that instead of saying it's limits are far higher than you could ever reach on a public road it would have been a better read.

[Sammy-qld]

This Author has no clue, he got his jollies off by driving his freaking ute around a corner 'a little' sideways and thought that was more fun than the R35 cause the R35 didn't feel like fun driving below the speed limit. He wants to drive a sports car that feels fun to drive at slow speeds. I'm sorry they gave the R35 review to the wrong guy. Sure the R35 doesn't have a Ferrari engine growling behind you and has alot of cool technology. That doesn't make it soulless. The car is built to go stupidly fast and wow is it exciting when you do drive it at that level. It feels exciting knowing that you put the foot down you just go into warp speed. I can only imagine how much fun this car must be on the track. After doing a few very fast corners and dropping the hammer in safe wide open roads and corners its alot of fun near even remotely near its limits.

For the performance and beautiful build quality & amazing style of this car for the price it is. There is NO comparision to ANY OTHER CAR! As Top Gear said "They built a new yard stick".

The R35 is a supercar at a huge discount. Even for us Aussies who pay through the butt for the car compared to everyone else its still great value.

[DaGr81]

Exact same article in the tele just read that, each to their own I suppose I'd still rather have the gtr though don't care what others think + it's just his opinion

[r32line]

Wow... the carsguide is still as rubbish as I remember.

I read less than a 1/4 of the article and felt like i was reading an article by a very old man (who is unaware of things such as the internet and iphones) telling me what is wrong with society these days. What a sad sad man.

I think I will go by J Clarkson's review of the new GTR "They have created a new yard stick".

Good work Paul, at least in the current economy the chance of you being on the unemployment line is much higher.... sooner the better! Now off to read a nice book with a cup of tea and leave testing performance cars to people who appreciate 'technology'... i would suggest you Google it but that would not work for you... off you go and look it up in your dictionary.

[r32line]

I can sort of see where the author is coming from. I wouldnt buy an R35 as my daily driver, it is totally wasted on the street. And yes it's "boring" in that context - only because it is 110% competent.

What a ridiculous statement... So for you to drive a car as a daily you want it to be inferior...?

By your logic a Veyron would be the most dull, mind-numbing experience possible as it is incredibly competent with an ability to accelerate that is almost unmatched in a road car...

The philosophy behind the new GTR is the 'anyone, anywhere, anytime supercar'.... I would definitely use it as a daily.

Edited May 8, 2009 by r32line