Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

We had a pretty phenomenal RB30 in last night, the brainchild of a good customer. This is a daily driver, home build and complete credit to the guy. A quick look at the results and im sure you will be astounded at how qiuckly it makes boost and how broad the power and torque curve are... i have NEVER seen any 6 cylinder pull within a 1/3rd of the low end torque this thing does (no gas). On the road this car will fry the tyres in 3rd from 3000rpm..... with only a stab on the throttle boost is instantanious.

Any one care to guess what the secret is?

post-34927-1241831146_thumb.jpg

post-34927-1241831160_thumb.jpg

Edited by URAS
  • Replies 43
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Posted Images

oh just for interest here is an identical (minus the polariser) setup GT3540 rb30 for comparison

Reference numbers on bottom of graph are set to show difference in power and torque @ 3000rpm

Torque 268nm vs 532nm ! This torque is more than most rb25 and 26's make @ peak :D

Power 84rwkw vs 167nm !

post-34927-1241831556_thumb.jpg

Edited by URAS

No semi slicks.... :D .....and based on your comments of instaneous boost......I'd say....twin scroll and also judging by the shape of the curve i.e. virtually no discernable difference in the curve between boost and off boost and linear power delivery over a broad rev range.

Edited by juggernaut1
X2 for spool valve. or possibly something like an eaton M90....?

haha yeah, toyota charger run by the haltech via NOS control (load rpm etc) then via a differential valve into the cooler, when the turbo boost exceeds the charger boost it is business as usual.... of course everything is also compounding so boost builds very quick. The charger drag seems to rob about 10-12rwkw from the top end. A few hours on the dyno and the boost switching/ load point is almost impossible to pick which was a big suprise for both of us.

The graph above of the the 2 rb30's is actually the same car before and after.

I have NEVER been in a car that builds boost and torque so rapidly other than BIG dollar supercharged v8's, its a real credit to luke.

Edited by URAS

Sounds like quite a tricky setup...and much better than trying to ram the turbos boost through the little toyota blower.

Do you have any photos of the setup?

It really does sound like a Sequential Turbo Supercharger Setup.

Have you thought about using an aircon clutch on the blower snout like the Castlemaine Rod shop setups for v6 commodores. so you're not losing power by running the blower after the turbo takes over?

Have you thought about using an aircon clutch on the blower snout like the Castlemaine Rod shop setups for v6 commodores. so you're not losing power by running the blower after the turbo takes over?

it has, thats what the NOS control on the haltech is taking care of.... in 3d... not just running off a rpm or boost switch.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now



  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • GCG is a good company, they're a major distributor for Garrett in Japan as well.
    • Nah, OEM washer bottle and brake fluid reservoirs are fine I don't know what it is with the plastic that Mazda used, some plastics, like the washer bottle and brake fluid res are fine, and still look new after 20 years use, where as the coolant expansion tank, and PS reservoir, that I replaced with new OEM items when I first got the car, turned yellow and started getting brittle a few years later If the dirty yellow stained plastics didn't trigger me there wouldn't be an issue, but they did, much like the battery bracket....... Meh As for going back to work full time to support car stuff, nope, why, because I own a Mazda NC MX5, not a Nissan R series Skyline 🤣
    • I've never heard of CJ-motor, so can't advise you on them. I'd just go straight to GCG for a GCG highflow though. Seems no point to use a middleman. I'm somewhat surprised that the price on the CJ site is lower than the GCG retail price. Even though CJ would get a discount of some sort, you would hardly expect them to give up so much margin. Maybe the price is out of date? Having said that "I'd go to GCG"...when I did my highflow, I went to Hypergear. I did this https://hypergearturbos.com/product/rb25dethighflow/#tab-dyno-results with the R34 OP6 450HP profile. With the BB centre (extra $400) and intially with the standard boost actuator, but I eventually got him to send me the high pressure one when I got to the point of being able to actually use it. Ends up costing the same sort of money as the GCG highflow, but this is, of course, the turbo that I KNOW has a shorter length core and so moves the comp cover rearwards. The GCG apparently doesn't do that. My mechanic also swears by the GCG highflow, given that we have another turbo rebuilder who does something essentialy the same as theirs, using Garrett wheels. He says it stands up at really low revs and makes good power. I haven't pushed my HG highflow past ~240-250rwkW yet (should have a little more in it, but unclear how much) and it does have a fairly gentle boost ramp. OK, it's much better now that I have gotten my boost controller tuned up on it.  A lot of my earlier unhappiness was because I couldn't keep the wastegate flap as closed as it needed to be (including some mechanical issues). I'd still prefer it to boost up nearly as quickly as the stocker, and it certainly a bit slower than that. So maybe the GCG one is worth the first look (for you).
    • Ok thanks 🙂 I will higly consider this. Any "known" company for a good reviews and experience to send that off? Is that CJ-motor good one? Or go straight to GCG site? I need to use VPN to even find some of those "shops" let alone access them 🙂 
    • You can literally put in as much WMI as it takes to quench the combustion totally (and then back it off a little, obviously), and it will keep making more and more power. The power comes from the cooling effect of the water (and the meth) and the extra fuel (the meth, which also has massive octane). It is effectively exactly like running E85. One might be slightly better than the other, but they are damn close. But with either you can lean on the boost or the timing (or both) waaaay more than with just petrol and the results are similar. Here's the first thing I googled for an anecdotal bit of evidence. Can't access the attachment without being a gold member, but it is there for the getting if able to, or searched up elsewise perhaps. https://www.hpacademy.com/forum/general-tuning-discussion/show/wmi-vs-e85/
×
×
  • Create New...