Ben C34 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 SET WHAT ?, I take it you are joking and pulling my leg ? If not, Do a Pauline, please explain You know that I know nothing much about modifying cars, only what I have been learning while on SAU. I know more now in 18 months than I ever knew about cars and that is not a lot. Up until now, I just buy them, drive them, brakes down someone fixes them, it was easy, only had to have the NRMA card with you Sorry Pete, I'm referring to the nitrous setup you should have on the car. Not some other random setting! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455388-educated-guess-at-the-final-tune-results/page/58/#findComment-7559742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nismo 3.2ish Posted June 30, 2015 Author Share Posted June 30, 2015 Sorry Pete, I'm referring to the nitrous setup you should have on the car. Not some other random setting! See what I mean Ben, I know nothing Get the same kick out of baked beens 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455388-educated-guess-at-the-final-tune-results/page/58/#findComment-7559771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben C34 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 2 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455388-educated-guess-at-the-final-tune-results/page/58/#findComment-7559773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stixbnr32 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 haha i was kidding about getting RIPS to build the engine...although they do a wicked job. 200hp shot of NOS. YES! I think that 900NM is going to be a handful anyway. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455388-educated-guess-at-the-final-tune-results/page/58/#findComment-7559965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nismo 3.2ish Posted June 30, 2015 Author Share Posted June 30, 2015 haha i was kidding about getting RIPS to build the engine...although they do a wicked job. 200hp shot of NOS. YES! I think that 900NM is going to be a handful anyway. I was seriously thinking of using RIPS and he was very helpful but as it turns out Sydney was too far Have seen some of the motors CRD have done and they can be very strong.I think he specializes more in the upper range HP , but ? Have a look on Piglets rebuild, there is a vid of Steve Ka's time attack runs at WTAC 2014, that would get the blood pumping to your low head, haha Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455388-educated-guess-at-the-final-tune-results/page/58/#findComment-7559973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QUP29 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 If you didn't know but Jhh racing in Qld build great motors as well, just saying... 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455388-educated-guess-at-the-final-tune-results/page/58/#findComment-7560458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nismo 3.2ish Posted July 1, 2015 Author Share Posted July 1, 2015 If you didn't know but Jhh racing in Qld build great motors as well, just saying... The motor is fine Ali, just a few touch ups and away we go. You can see the boost drops off from 24psi @ 150kph to 18.5psi @ 250kph ish, at the 381.7kw mark, there is something wrong with this and it will be checked out and fixed. I also think there is more to get down low from a different type tune Going off the Dyno Graph, what do you think the KW would have been if it held the 24psi until the 7000rpm. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455388-educated-guess-at-the-final-tune-results/page/58/#findComment-7560501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadouken Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 sounds like your power hungry You can still get a c63. Oh oh, saw a M6 today. That shit was hot, and sounds so good Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455388-educated-guess-at-the-final-tune-results/page/58/#findComment-7560503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QUP29 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I maybe wrong and I'm no expert but I think you maybe at your limits of pump fuel, hopefully the e85 tune will give you what your chasing. CRD build tuff cars and I've witnessed it in person last week. But I feel CRD did that tune for a reason, maybe ask the tuner the question? Also what is your engine compression ratio? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455388-educated-guess-at-the-final-tune-results/page/58/#findComment-7560516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piggaz Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 8.5:1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455388-educated-guess-at-the-final-tune-results/page/58/#findComment-7560518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nismo 3.2ish Posted July 1, 2015 Author Share Posted July 1, 2015 sounds like your power hungry You can still get a c63. Oh oh, saw a M6 today. That shit was hot, and sounds so good If you are practicing to be a DH, you can stop, the Dux you are :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: I might be 100% wrong but I believe it should be better than it is. So you think the boost should start tapering off at 5000 ish rpm with the mods I have ?? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455388-educated-guess-at-the-final-tune-results/page/58/#findComment-7560540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nismo 3.2ish Posted July 1, 2015 Author Share Posted July 1, 2015 I maybe wrong and I'm no expert but I think you maybe at your limits of pump fuel, hopefully the e85 tune will give you what your chasing. CRD build tuff cars and I've witnessed it in person last week. But I feel CRD did that tune for a reason, maybe ask the tuner the question? Also what is your engine compression ratio? You may be right about the pump fuel, but that does not mean it cannot be better down low, it is not much better than when it was a 2.6 apart from the torque until the turbo kicks in I have always said that CRD builds tough motors and gets some big HP going. I asked the question to them 4 days ago why the boost tapers off , I got nothing ? Anyway, I will have it checked out and we will see what the problem is and fix it very soon. Maybe it will go better , maybe it won't ????? But it is still fun to drive Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455388-educated-guess-at-the-final-tune-results/page/58/#findComment-7560547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben C34 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 A 3.2 litre engine without a turbo is shit. That's what you are driving before the turbo makes boost and gets things going. Can't change that. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455388-educated-guess-at-the-final-tune-results/page/58/#findComment-7560567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryRB Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) This might be the way you end up going pete, nothing wrong with this boost curve.. https://youtu.be/VLqp1vrTD0I Edited July 1, 2015 by AngryRB 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455388-educated-guess-at-the-final-tune-results/page/58/#findComment-7560568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QUP29 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Yes that's a bonus, your doing better then me! Mines been sitting in the workshop for over a year but that's mainly my fault for changing the plan so many times! Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455388-educated-guess-at-the-final-tune-results/page/58/#findComment-7560573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anfanee Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Gets a massive single and complains about lagg... Doinitwrong. Just quietly my poor man's 2.6 made 320kw on pump with -7s..... Soon to be more with e85. Any man's guess as to what it will make... Guessing 350. Maybe more. I'd say the -7s will run out of puff at 350. For people to say you need e85 for it to work properly should be shot. Unless it's a track build the idea of e85 is great but it's availability makes it mediocre at best. keep in mind I'm only flex tuning it because haltech and it was $200 more than setup on just 98. I will be running 98 most of the time. If you are not happy with it now, pull the turbo off and go smaller and run less power. E85 will only bandaid the issue and not fix it. 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455388-educated-guess-at-the-final-tune-results/page/58/#findComment-7560578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinista32 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 6262 isn't massive at all. Pulls over 400kw on a 2.6 with 98 Same or better coming on full boost as twins (-7 or -9s) Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455388-educated-guess-at-the-final-tune-results/page/58/#findComment-7560594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anfanee Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Then sell gtr and buy something with more pistons. 1 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455388-educated-guess-at-the-final-tune-results/page/58/#findComment-7560598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
QUP29 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I just had a look at both of your dyno runs, old and new. If piggaz calculations are right they only revved it to about 7250rpm... Interesting if that's correct? Once again I could be wrong I'm not good at maths Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455388-educated-guess-at-the-final-tune-results/page/58/#findComment-7560605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XGTRX Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 The 3.2l is no miracle worker. You won't get n/a response doesn't matter what you do. You can't get linear torque nor power with an low compression rb at the power you want. It just won't happen. As I have said previously your turbine is to small to make any significant power in excess of what you have now. To tell you the truth I recon CRD did a pretty good job trying to tune that turbo on your setup it must have been a nightmare. In a nutshell, you either need to decide on higher power or better response, you can't have both. People have been telling you this all along. 2 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/455388-educated-guess-at-the-final-tune-results/page/58/#findComment-7560612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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