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Neil, as I said, interchangeable... The only way you have issues is putting a 25 onto a 30... You should be sweet, but you'll lose some of the drainage whatsy ma call its that are in the 25 sump.

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Yep Neil, Now that Matt mentions it he is right, both patterns line up bolt wise however a 25 sump needs some work to fit the 30 bottom end and clear the crank. 30 onto 25 does require 30 oil pick up however to prevent starving the engine on high rpm.

I'm not 100% sure how a dry sump works so I am not sure how this might effect your plans mate.

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Yea,,,I knew Matt was right,,,just needed confirmation. Thanks Matt.

I'm going to see if I can find a 25 sump and play cut the bugger up and make my own dry sump. It really can't be that hard.

ASR didn't return my phone call,,,but I expect they will be as expensive as hioctane.

Handley's booked for tomorrow,,,so thats cool. I'm booked for Saturday on his car and training on Sunday,,,,busy days ahead.

Oh I didn't mention,,,I'm also booked with BMW for my usual Parts Master's weekend at Eastern Creek this time,,,Feb 11-13,,,time to thrash some BMW's around there for free. They won't tell what cars are on offer,,,but they better have "M"'s or words will be had. I'd really like a thrash of X5M,,,X6M or the new 1 series M,,,bit over the M3. I'm definately going to for-go the go-karts and skid pan and get some more driver training from Mr Brabham. Might even put my POV in the cars.

Cheers

Neil.

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Neil if you want to pickup some dead RB30s you can have them and the sumps that are on them... ;)

Can I just have the sumps mate,,,I don't need to start an artificial reef at the moment. :whistling::whistling::whistling:

Cheers

Neil.

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The only way the motors are moving to get the sumps off Neil is if someone takes them, or as I push them off the trailer into the tip... LOL

PS: If anyone wants them, put your hand up NOW!

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Yea,,,I knew Matt was right,,,just needed confirmation. Thanks Matt.

I'm going to see if I can find a 25 sump and play cut the bugger up and make my own dry sump. It really can't be that hard.

ASR didn't return my phone call,,,but I expect they will be as expensive as hioctane.

Handley's booked for tomorrow,,,so thats cool. I'm booked for Saturday on his car and training on Sunday,,,,busy days ahead.

Oh I didn't mention,,,I'm also booked with BMW for my usual Parts Master's weekend at Eastern Creek this time,,,Feb 11-13,,,time to thrash some BMW's around there for free. They won't tell what cars are on offer,,,but they better have "M"'s or words will be had. I'd really like a thrash of X5M,,,X6M or the new 1 series M,,,bit over the M3. I'm definately going to for-go the go-karts and skid pan and get some more driver training from Mr Brabham. Might even put my POV in the cars.

Cheers

Neil.

I have a good friend that works in the metal fabrication industry, he and his boss have a passion for building things a little different and a little tricky, and if you throw in something motor sport related then they all but froth at the mouth! I would be more than happy mention your project and see if they are interested or even if they have done something like this dry sump before. I'm thinking something aluminimum :O Just let me know, I know they have a pretty trick drag mobile in the workshop. :D

Also, let me know if you need any crew/co-drivers at the Masters day ;)

Stay Sidewayz,

Dan.

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800 bucks is far not expensive for a dry sump pan.

Neil you have a pretty good idea what's needed.

Cut the pan off, you need a flat base that has a slight slope from each side to the center for simplicity.

Cut a grove about an inch wide the entire length and weld in a channel the length of the sump which you can scavenge from.

Some type of mesh over the top of the channel and it's right to go.

3 hours labour @ 110p/h plus $15-20 retail for plate and channel. 3 -12 weld on fittings @ $13.30 each and your away.

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Good to see a consistant amount of working going into the car week in week out...god knows how hard it is to find time to work on cars

Thanks Troy,,,we do enjoy working on cars,,, and I think thats what pushes us on. My wife is very understanding and Mrs Handley loves her tarmac rally stuff,,, so we Boys have lots of time to play cars. Just wish someone would turn the temps down though,,,air con or no air con,,,welding,,,cutting,,,altering and assembley stuff is so hard in this heat.

Cheers

Neil.

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800 bucks is far not expensive for a dry sump pan.

Neil you have a pretty good idea what's needed.

Cut the pan off, you need a flat base that has a slight slope from each side to the center for simplicity.

Cut a grove about an inch wide the entire length and weld in a channel the length of the sump which you can scavenge from.

Some type of mesh over the top of the channel and it's right to go.

3 hours labour @ 110p/h plus $15-20 retail for plate and channel. 3 -12 weld on fittings @ $13.30 each and your away.

I wish someone could do one for a GTR at $800.00 (challenege Brad? :))

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The only way the motors are moving to get the sumps off Neil is if someone takes them, or as I push them off the trailer into the tip... LOL

PS: If anyone wants them, put your hand up NOW!

I understand where your coming from Matt,,,think I'll pass though. All the way to the gong to dump a motor less it's sump doesn't sound like much fun,,,thanks anyway mate.

I need to pop up to the mountains soon,,,the big fella has some bits and pieces I'm after.

Dan,,,thanks for the offer buddy and I might take you up on it if my attempts at making a sump don't work. Brad's right,,,after all my researching I have a good adea what's necessary. While aluminum would be fantastic,,,steel will be fine. Ha Ha,,,my masters day,,,mate they won't let you in the gate. It's really cool,,,no dirty hands,,,just get in cars and thrash away.

Titan,,,I haven't had a chance to ring them again,,,but I will post the price when I do.

Cheers

Neil.

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